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An Eye Witness to Abortion Murder

Posted by tfheringer on June 25, 2008

(My words here, if abortion is not murder up to 36 weeks by their definition of life then it is not murder after 36 weeks. Problem is that life does not start with the first breath, which this baby had taken already, but it does start at conception, that is just looking at it purely from the stand point of biology. All the elements of life are present when the sperm and egg meet, hence it is life. It is a moral and philosophical decision that says abortion is ok, but it isn’t a good decision.)

from ChristianNewsWire:

Operation Rescue calls for immediate suspension of Sella’s medical license and for an emergency closure of Tiller’s late-term abortion mill in light of this shocking audio-taped admission.

Contact: Troy Newman, President, 316-841-1700; Cheryl Sullenger, Senior Policy Advisor, 316-516-3034; both with Operation Rescue, info@operationrescue.org

WICHITA, Kansas, June 24 /Christian Newswire/ — A murder investigation has been opened involving Shelley Sella, a California abortionist employed by George Tiller, who is reported to have intentionally stabbed to death an infant born alive during an abortion at Tiller’s Women’s Health Care Services abortion clinic in Wichita, Kansas.

Photo: Late-term abortionist George Tiller is shown here with his employee, abortionist Shelley Sella

Operation Rescue reported the incident to the Wichita Police Department after a former Tiller employee, Tina Davis, told Troy Newman and Cheryl Sullenger of the stabbing in April. It is believed that the alleged infanticide took place sometime in the past two years.

In addition, the incident has been reported to the Kansas State Board of Healing Arts, which has confirmed that the case has been assigned to an investigator.

Abortionist Shelley Sella is a “circuit rider” who splits her time between Tiller’s Wichita clinic, a California Planned Parenthood clinic, and other, smaller abortion mills.

“Ms. Davis gave us a very specific eye-witness account about the incident,” said Operation Rescue President Troy Newman. “We were told that the baby was 35 weeks gestation at the time of the abortion. The baby came out and was moving. Sella looked up at Ms. Davis, then picked up a utensil and stabbed the baby in the left ribcage, twisting the utensil until the baby quit moving. At 35 weeks, there is no doubt about viability. This is murder in anybody’s book.”

“We understand there are unique challenges to getting charges filed in this case since the body would have been cremated at Tiller’s on-site crematorium. Without a body, any murder case becomes more difficult,” said Newman. “However, because of the brutality of this murder and the gravity of this charge, we are compelled to demand that Tiller’s clinic be closed by the State until a full inspection and investigation can take place, and that the medical licenses of Sella and her boss, Tiller, be immediately suspended.”

“We have every reason to believe that the story she told us was true,” said Newman. “We have been able to confirm many of the other things she told us. Ms. Davis came forward because she was troubled by what went on at the abortion clinic, and was seeking peace. We pray she finds it.”

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Obamas New Pastor same message

Posted by tfheringer on June 11, 2008

Is this the kind of radical racist thinking that we can expect from Obama as President? If anyone who reads this thinks Obama is a good idea, you better think again, he may be very young for a president, but he is just to immature and has virtually no Personal Discernment.

Obama Embraces New Caustic Pastor

Thursday, May 8, 2008 9:39 AM

By: Ronald Kessler

Can you imagine the president of the United States attending a church where the pastor says everyone has a bit of “thug” in him and praises a rapper with a criminal record as a prophet?

How about a pastor who calls the biblical patriarch Abraham a “pimp” and says Noah and Moses were thugs, Jesus has a “soft spot for thugs,” and everyone has some “thug proclivities.”

If Barack Obama is elected president, that is exactly what will happen. Now that the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. is retiring from Trinity United Church of Christ, Obama has said he will continue to attend the church.

Explaining his decision, Sen. Obama said that the “new pastor, the young pastor, Reverend Otis Moss, is a wonderful young pastor.” He said he also still values the Trinity community.

Known as the “hip-hop pastor,” Otis Moss III has served as assistant pastor of the church for two years. Moss officially takes over in June.

While Moss has not expressed hatred of America and of whites, as Wright did, in a sermon on YouTube, Moss derides middle-class America for not accepting the “prophetic brilliance” of thugs.

Referring to these thugs, Moss says sardonically, “There are times when our prejudice keeps us from hearing ghetto prophets, who preach a brand of thug theology which keeps us from hearing the truth from their lips because of their course language and ragged subject-verb agreement.”

To applause, Moss approvingly cites Tupac Shakur, a “gangsta” rap star with a long arrest record. Before being fatally shot in a drive-by attack in Las Vegas in 1996, Shakur faced a 120-day sentence for probation violations stemming from offenses including assault and battery and a 1994 sexual abuse conviction in New York. Shakur served 11 months in prison for his involvement in the sexual attack on a 21-year-old woman in a New York hotel room. Judge Daniel P. Fitzgerald of the State Supreme Court in Manhattan described it as “an act of brutal violence against a helpless woman.”

Shakur had also been convicted in Los Angeles of assault and battery on a music video producer and for carrying a loaded, concealed weapon.

Most Americans look to places of worship for inspiration and moral and spiritual guidance. Moss’ message is the opposite. Claiming Shakur’s message speaks to our “current condition,” Moss blurs the distinction between right and wrong: He says those who don’t get that a rapper like Shakur is a prophet and biblical figures are thugs are confined by “bourgeois paradigms.”

Instead of condemning those who break the law, Moss says to exuberant applause, “Our society creates thugs. Children are not born thugs. Thugs are made and not born.” He adds, “This is good news for somebody who has a proclivity for ‘ghettoistic’ conduct.”

Indeed, it is good news for those who do not want to be held accountable for their own conduct. In making that statement, Moss endorses the message of many black leaders who encourage blacks to see themselves as helpless victims of a bigoted society. As outlined in the Newsmax article “Rev. Wright Furthers Black Victimhood,” the victim mentality limits blacks’ aspirations and torpedoes their chances at success.

What is most disturbing about Obama’s continuing attendance at Trinity is the fact that he is exposing his children to its negative message. Instead of uplifting members of his congregation and calling on them to adhere to the best values, Moss denigrates American society and looks to guidance from thugs.

A president is commander in chief and chief executive officer of the government. But he is also a moral leader. When President Clinton was caught having sex with Monica Lewinsky, parents all over the country were embarrassed and disgusted that they had to explain to their pre-teens the meaning of the sexual terms their kids read in newspaper articles describing Clinton’s activities with the 22-year-old White House intern.

What kind of moral leadership can be exercised by a man who sends his kids to listen to sermons denouncing America and whites and now calling Moses a thug and praising a convicted rapper as a prophet? What kind of example is set by a man who does not denounce the destructive message sent by this church to blacks and whites alike?

Tragically for segments of black society, in belonging to Trinity and contributing $26,270 to it last year, Obama is helping to spread the crippling message among blacks that they are victims.

Apologists for Obama will say where he attends church and what he exposes his children to have nothing to do with being president. They are mistaken. It has everything to do with being president.

Ronald Kessler is chief Washington correspondent of Newsmax.com. View his previous reports and get his dispatches sent to you free via
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Hagee backs down on Catholic comments

Posted by tfheringer on May 14, 2008

John Hagee had this comment to make in an apology to Catholics from an article in USA Today:

“In my zeal to oppose anti-Semitism and bigotry in all its ugly forms, I have often emphasized the darkest chapters in the history of Catholics and Protestant relations with the Jews,” Hagee wrote. “In the process, I may have contributed to the mistaken impression that the anti-Jewish violence of the Crusades and the Inquisition defines the Catholic Church. It most certainly does not.”

Oh! But it does define them, the same attitude towards the scriptures and obedience to the clear commands of scripture are ignored by the Catholic Church, such as the one about Idols. Or the worship of men as opposed to the sole worship of God. Yes, they are not much different, although they are not trying saints for crimes against the church, then they were in the dark ages. The traditions of the Catholic church reek of a whore totally unrelated to the Christ of the Scriptures.

“Hagee has often made references to “the apostate church” and the “great whore,” terms that Catholics say are slurs aimed at the Roman Catholic Church. In his letter, Hagee said he now better understood that his use of those descriptions, taken from the Book of Revelations, are “a rhetorical device long employed in anti-Catholic literature and commentary.”"

Rhetoric or not the truths behind them stand very well. The book of revelations description is of the Catholic church is taken from the description of the whore as sitting on 7 hills. The abomination is spoken of as a combination resulting from the marriage of church and state. The Catholic church is the arch typical combination of these two things. I believe that the Roman church is far from being Christian, but is the continuance in modern time of the Holy Roman Empire, which was a marriage of the Roman empire to the Christian church at Rome. The Roman church did not exist outside of the Roman empire until well after the third century. Even when the Nicean Creed was being formed, the Roman church was still not in control of all the churches spread througout the empire. During the whole time of the formation of the Roman party there were churches in the remote areas around europe that were still primitive Baptist Churches.

Me trust the Catholics? Not on your life! Or mine for that matter.

He stressed that in his use, “neither of these phrases can be synonymous with the Catholic Church.”

Regardless they are synonymous with the Catholic church and if the Apostle John was with us I guarantee that he would also equate the Catholic church with the abominable whore of his book.

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Is His Faith Real?

Posted by tfheringer on April 15, 2008

from The Christian Post:

By R. Albert Mohler, Jr.

The news media and political pundits have been dissecting the now infamous comments of Sen. Barack Obama in which he told a group in San Francisco that hard economic times explain why some people cling to religion, guns, and certain political convictions.

Sen. Obama was speaking at a private fundraising event, but his comments became public when leaked to the media. Sen. Hillary Clinton and a host of others accused Sen. Obama of elitism and being out of touch with ordinary Americans – charge that may well gain traction in the crucial days leading up to the Pennsylvania primary next Tuesday…for the full article

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