Copeland

from CBS News:

As the Televangelist Kenneth Copeland continues to defy a Senate Finance investigation, internal ministry documents shed new light on how Copeland runs his $100 million church.
Church bylaws obtained exclusively by CBS News say Copeland is “empowered to veto any resolution of the Board” concentrating all key decision-making power in the televangelist.

The bylaws indicate the president of the board is Copeland but Copeland’s family members also play a critical role. His wife is the vice president. The senior pastor, secretary and treasurer roles are filled by Copeland’s son-in-law. The operations vice president and CEO slots are both filled by Kenneth Copeland’s son, John. Other documents previously obtained by CBS indicate in addition to family members there are ten other members of the church’s board.

“My first reaction was that Kenneth Copeland was a control freak,” says William Josephson, the former head of New York State’s Charities Bureau after reviewing the Kenneth Copeland Ministries bylaws.

“Because control is vested in him and his family to the exclusion of any alternative source of authority and it is very unusual,” Josephson tells CBS News.

And the many donors to Copeland’s ministry have no say in how the ministry functions. According to the bylaws the church “shall have no class of membership entitled to vote.” Josephson says that with the exception of Catholic parishes, this is also unusual. “Most churches are congregational and the authority comes from the congregation. They are the ones who approve who becomes the pastor and who succeeds the pastorate.”

Another ministry document filed with officials in Tarrant County, Texas, indicates the church spent $28 million on salaries in 2006. $13.3 million went to administrative staff. Former employees tell CBS News the Copelands have about 500 employees on staff at their sprawling Ft. Worth, Texas, compound. In a prior broadcast Copeland said his ministry takes in about $100 million a year in revenue, leaving the unanswered question of what the church does with the remaining cash flow.

Copeland has refused to provide Senate investigators with any of these financial details.

Kenneth Copeland Ministries CEO John Copeland recently went to the local IRS office to offer cooperation should the IRS conduct a church-tax inquiry. Copeland has said repeatedly that it is the responsibility of the IRS to police church-tax issues and not the business of Congress.

Science or Farce

For many years now evolutionary science has been pounding it into our brains this little noxious statement that “the Bible was not intended to teach science”. The rest of the argument goes something like this, religion and science are compatible so long as religion takes care of itself and science takes care of every thing else. The bible is just about religion and has nothing to do with being scientific. That is the Bible is not a book on science, but we must go to the book of nature to learn about nature. This is pure none sense because evolutionary science is not even scientific itself.

There is not even one provable hypothesis among anything that evolutionists have said over the last almost 200 years. You can not take something from a lab experiment now in this time frame and then apply it with any thing close to certainty about something that happened by there own time frame millions of years ago. I am sure as I sit here writting this that some one will say you just do not understand and my answer is you are right I do not understand how otherwise smart people can be so very dumb. We are looking at the same set of facts, but coming up with a different set of conclusions. If you put on the presupposition that all the things we now see came about as an endless chain of mutations in genomes over an equally long period of time then yes you can come up with the theory of evolution, but it is just that a theory and you have proved nothing. Science only deals with things that exist in our own time, that we can examine and test with a real understanding of the results. If you do the same tests now and then try to say what happened millions of years ago, then it is not so good. If you start on the otherhand with the presupposition that the Genesis account was real and that the things that are mentioned in the first eleven chapters really happened, then what we examine today makes a lot of scence such as things like the Grand Canyon taking less then a year to form instead of endless years.

However, still no mater how much sence creationist make the evolutionist still tries to claim that science is behind their hypothesis. While just faith is behind the creationist science. When will this idiocy stop we all ready know that the evolutionary theory is full of big gaps and many holes, when will they admit it.

Is this religious freedom?

Read at true discernment and find out what happened in Canada. If we have any moral convictions that are based on the Word of God, we will need to never say anything about them. As for me the only way to shut me up is to put me to death. These moral beliefs are part of the judeo Christian scriptures and as such comprise an integral part of the teaching of scripture...more

Which church can say that it is truly apostolic?

Premise: A baptist church is the only true church and meets the distinctives that the bible teaches to be a true church. There are principles or distinctives that set apart baptists from all others, including Rome. They are (1) A regenerate church membership by the Word of God and the Holy Spirit (2) Baptism of believers only no pedo baptism (3) The equality of all believers in the church, this includes the priesthood of the believer. (4) Sole authority of the scriptures. These are derived from the clear teaching of Scripture. There has all ways been a church somewhere in the world that held to these principles down through history. This even includes the darkest hours of history. No other group can trace there way back to the New Testament. In almost every instance in the following scriptures it is reference to a local church, the whole concept of a universal (Catholic) church is without any New Testament support. So when I see members of churches not necessarily baptist going back to the Catholic Church on the basis it was the origional church, I become concerned because the Catholic church is decidedly not the origional church. Baptists can claim a better heritage as being the origional New Testament Christians both in terms of polity and practice. I can not go back to Rome, because I was never a part of the Roman church. Baptists predate them by several hundred years. Let’s see if the distinctives of Baptists churches meet up to what the scriptures say?
(Mat 16:18) And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

(Mat 18:17) And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

(Act 2:47) Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

(Act 5:11) And great fear came upon all the church, and upon as many as heard these things.

(Act 7:38) This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:

(Act 8:1) And Saul was consenting unto his death. And at that time there was a great persecution against the church which was at Jerusalem; and they were all scattered abroad throughout the regions of Judaea and Samaria, except the apostles.

(Act 8:3) As for Saul, he made havock of the church, entering into every house, and haling men and women committed them to prison.

(Act 11:22) Then tidings of these things came unto the ears of the church which was in Jerusalem: and they sent forth Barnabas, that he should go as far as Antioch.

(Act 11:26) And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

(Act 12:1) Now about that time Herod the king stretched forth his hands to vex certain of the church.

(Act 12:5) Peter therefore was kept in prison: but prayer was made without ceasing of the church unto God for him.

(Act 13:1) Now there were in the church that was at Antioch certain prophets and teachers; as Barnabas, and Simeon that was called Niger, and Lucius of Cyrene, and Manaen, which had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and Saul.

(Act 14:23) And when they had ordained them elders in every church, and had prayed with fasting, they commended them to the Lord, on whom they believed.

(Act 14:27) And when they were come, and had gathered the church together, they rehearsed all that God had done with them, and how he had opened the door of faith unto the Gentiles.

(Act 15:3) And being brought on their way by the church, they passed through Phenice and Samaria, declaring the conversion of the Gentiles: and they caused great joy unto all the brethren.

(Act 15:4) And when they were come to Jerusalem, they were received of the church, and of the apostles and elders, and they declared all things that God had done with them.

(Act 15:22) Then pleased it the apostles and elders, with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas; namely, Judas surnamed Barsabas, and Silas, chief men among the brethren:

(Act 18:22) And when he had landed at Caesarea, and gone up, and saluted the church, he went down to Antioch.

(Act 20:17) And from Miletus he sent to Ephesus, and called the elders of the church.

(Act 20:28) Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

(Rom 16:1) I commend unto you Phebe our sister, which is a servant of the church which is at Cenchrea:

(Rom 16:5) Likewise greet the church that is in their house. Salute my wellbeloved Epaenetus, who is the firstfruits of Achaia unto Christ.

(Rom 16:23) Gaius mine host, and of the whole church, saluteth you. Erastus the chamberlain of the city saluteth you, and Quartus a brother.

(Rom 16:27) To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen. <Written to the Romans from Corinthus, and sent by Phebe servant of the church at Cenchrea.>

(1Co 1:2) Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:

(1Co 4:17) For this cause have I sent unto you Timotheus, who is my beloved son, and faithful in the Lord, who shall bring you into remembrance of my ways which be in Christ, as I teach every where in every church.

(1Co 6:4) If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.

(1Co 10:32) Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:

(1Co 11:18) For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.

(1Co 11:22) What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not? What shall I say to you? shall I praise you in this? I praise you not.

(1Co 12:28) And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

(1Co 14:4) He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.

(1Co 14:5) I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.

(1Co 14:12) Even so ye, forasmuch as ye are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that ye may excel to the edifying of the church.

(1Co 14:19) Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue.

(1Co 14:23) If therefore the whole church be come together into one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those that are unlearned, or unbelievers, will they not say that ye are mad?

(1Co 14:28) But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.

(1Co 14:35) And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

(1Co 15:9) For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.

(1Co 16:19) The churches of Asia salute you. Aquila and Priscilla salute you much in the Lord, with the church that is in their house.

(2Co 1:1) Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timothy our brother, unto the church of God which is at Corinth, with all the saints which are in all Achaia:

(Gal 1:13) For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews’ religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it:

(Eph 1:22) And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,

(Eph 3:10) To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,

(Eph 3:21) Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.

(Eph 5:23) For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

(Eph 5:24) Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

(Eph 5:25) Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

(Eph 5:27) That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.

(Eph 5:29) For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:

(Eph 5:32) This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

(Php 3:6) Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.

(Php 4:15) Now ye Philippians know also, that in the beginning of the gospel, when I departed from Macedonia, no church communicated with me as concerning giving and receiving, but ye only.

(Col 1:18) And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

(Col 1:24) Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body’s sake, which is the church:

(Col 4:15) Salute the brethren which are in Laodicea, and Nymphas, and the church which is in his house.

(Col 4:16) And when this epistle is read among you, cause that it be read also in the church of the Laodiceans; and that ye likewise read the epistle from Laodicea.

(1Th 1:1) Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians which is in God the Father and in the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

(2Th 1:1) Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians in God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ:

(1Ti 3:5) (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)

(1Ti 3:15) But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

(1Ti 5:16) If any man or woman that believeth have widows, let them relieve them, and let not the church be charged; that it may relieve them that are widows indeed.

(2Ti 4:22) The Lord Jesus Christ be with thy spirit. Grace be with you. Amen. <The second epistle unto Timotheus, ordained the first bishop of the church of the Ephesians, was written from Rome, when Paul was brought before Nero the second time.>

(Tit 3:15) All that are with me salute thee. Greet them that love us in the faith. Grace be with you all. Amen. <It was written to Titus, ordained the first bishop of the church of the Cretians, from Nicopolis of Macedonia.>

(Phm 1:2) And to our beloved Apphia, and Archippus our fellowsoldier, and to the church in thy house:

(Heb 2:12) Saying, I will declare thy name unto my brethren, in the midst of the church will I sing praise unto thee.

(Heb 12:23) To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

(Jas 5:14) Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:

(1Pe 5:13) The church that is at Babylon, elected together with you, saluteth you; and so doth Marcus my son.

(3Jn 1:6) Which have borne witness of thy charity before the church: whom if thou bring forward on their journey after a godly sort, thou shalt do well:

(3Jn 1:9) I wrote unto the church: but Diotrephes, who loveth to have the preeminence among them, receiveth us not.

(3Jn 1:10) Wherefore, if I come, I will remember his deeds which he doeth, prating against us with malicious words: and not content therewith, neither doth he himself receive the brethren, and forbiddeth them that would, and casteth them out of the church.

(Rev 2:1) Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks;

(Rev 2:8) And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;

(Rev 2:12) And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write; These things saith he which hath the sharp sword with two edges;

(Rev 2:18) And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass;

(Rev 3:1) And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.

(Rev 3:7) And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;

(Rev 3:14) And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

Hagee backs down on Catholic comments

John Hagee had this comment to make in an apology to Catholics from an article in USA Today:

“In my zeal to oppose anti-Semitism and bigotry in all its ugly forms, I have often emphasized the darkest chapters in the history of Catholics and Protestant relations with the Jews,” Hagee wrote. “In the process, I may have contributed to the mistaken impression that the anti-Jewish violence of the Crusades and the Inquisition defines the Catholic Church. It most certainly does not.”

Oh! But it does define them, the same attitude towards the scriptures and obedience to the clear commands of scripture are ignored by the Catholic Church, such as the one about Idols. Or the worship of men as opposed to the sole worship of God. Yes, they are not much different, although they are not trying saints for crimes against the church, then they were in the dark ages. The traditions of the Catholic church reek of a whore totally unrelated to the Christ of the Scriptures.

“Hagee has often made references to “the apostate church” and the “great whore,” terms that Catholics say are slurs aimed at the Roman Catholic Church. In his letter, Hagee said he now better understood that his use of those descriptions, taken from the Book of Revelations, are “a rhetorical device long employed in anti-Catholic literature and commentary.”"

Rhetoric or not the truths behind them stand very well. The book of revelations description is of the Catholic church is taken from the description of the whore as sitting on 7 hills. The abomination is spoken of as a combination resulting from the marriage of church and state. The Catholic church is the arch typical combination of these two things. I believe that the Roman church is far from being Christian, but is the continuance in modern time of the Holy Roman Empire, which was a marriage of the Roman empire to the Christian church at Rome. The Roman church did not exist outside of the Roman empire until well after the third century. Even when the Nicean Creed was being formed, the Roman church was still not in control of all the churches spread througout the empire. During the whole time of the formation of the Roman party there were churches in the remote areas around europe that were still primitive Baptist Churches.

Me trust the Catholics? Not on your life! Or mine for that matter.

He stressed that in his use, “neither of these phrases can be synonymous with the Catholic Church.”

Regardless they are synonymous with the Catholic church and if the Apostle John was with us I guarantee that he would also equate the Catholic church with the abominable whore of his book.

Hear No Creation, See No Creation, Speak No Creation

Just like the three monkeys, see no evil, hear no evil and speak no evil goes the adherents of the Darwinian religion. I found this comment after seeing “Expelled, No Intelligence Allowed” and have chosen to make a response to this comment. This kind of intellectual bias is now rampant in this country. It has invaded every area of our society. I believe it is time to confront this ungodly and unrigthteous belief. This comment was seen at: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1091617/usercomments,

**Note I am going to be making a few changes and additions to this post. I have decided to go ahead and post this before this movie disappears.

“Author: trigger_happy_411 from United Kingdom”

“There was already great controversy about this film before its release. I have to admit, I was expecting a slightly more objective film than what I found in the theatre.

Yes, there is controversy, but not so much over the film, but over the two axioms that control the philosophies behind evolution and creation. Creation and evolution, both look at the same facts, but through different pairs of glass’s. As to being objective one only needs to attend any number of classrooms studying biology or science to find out that evolutionary science is hardly objective. Not being able to ask questions that challenge conclusions is intellectual bigotry and bias.

Intellectually what is the starting points for both sides of this argument. There are certain factors that feed into both sides of this controversy. The Primary Axiom of evolution is that man is merely the product of random mutations plus natural selection (Sanford, v). The Primary Axiom of creation is that God accomplished the creation of the world in six literal 24 hour days. Both of these axioms must by necessity start with certain givens. The Primary Axiom of evolution is dependent on a chance meeting of all the right elements resulting in the creation of life. This with a long period of time allowing for the development of species as we now know it. The Primary Axiom of creation necessitates God being everything that the scriptures reveal about Him, these things being absolutely true necessitates that creation will also be as the Scriptures has revealed it. The Puritan Catechism in the section having to do with What is God has this to say, with the scriptures that support this belief.

4 Q What is God?

A God is Spirit, # Joh 4:24 infinite, # Job 11:7 eternal, # Ps 90:2 1Ti 1:17, and unchangeable, # Jas 1:17, in his being, # Ex 3:14, wisdom, power, # Ps 147:5, holiness, # Re 4:8, justice, goodness and truth. # Ex 34:6,7 (Puritan Catecism)

So this is not something new to me, but has been the message of historical Christian faith for a lot longer then the fledgling Darwin church. The thing that is really baffling is that when cornered by the errors that Darwin made most evolutionary biologists will start distancing themselves from some of his ideas.

God is everything that the Scriptures say and more, His power is way beyond human understanding. The Psalmist, declares about God:

(Psa 19:1) <To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David.> The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
(Psa 19:2) Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.
(Psa 19:3) There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.
(Psa 19:4) Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,
(Psa 19:5) Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.
(Psa 19:6) His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.

What I would like you to notice is the bold type above, the psalmist says that to view the expanse of the heavens is to look at God’s work. The heavens are so awsome, that every nation and language has had writtings about them. We are talking about human creation here, but if God is big enough to create the heavens, then He certainly is big enough to create man. At the very end of this Psalm is a prayer to God to not let this fact of God’s power be so presumed that it lets the servant constantly depend on it. It is sin to presume that God will do something, without first asking Him.

I am spending this much time on this point here, because the author of this comment spent so much time attacking those of us who believe in God as creator of all things. Those who hold to evolution by necessity link themselves to Darwin, since he is their would be prophet. He is held in some places with such reverence and esteem, that you might even call it worship, that it even approaches God like qualities, but in the end he was just a man, very deluded, but man none the less.

This commenter seems to imply or outright believes that anyone who believes in Creation is not objective. Then all those people who believe in evolution or Darwinism, if you would, are objective? Instead of using labels about creationists he just sinks to an out right slanderous statement, that creationists are ignorant. The problem is that regardless of labels what we are looking at in Darwinism or evolution is a dogma that is worshipped as a religion, including a priesthood that guards the holy grail of biology, that is the Primary Axiom “random mutations plus natural selection “. Those who even dare contradict the Primary Axiom are excommunicated from the Church of Darwin. So just who is being objective? I took science in high school and I have had science in college, I have studied these issues for a number of years. These terms did not stump me it seems like the perspective was a good one. Of course those who hold to Darwinian evolution, must resort to some sort of smoke screen (“I now half expect us to start referring to Gravitational theory as “Newtonism” and people who believe in gravity as “Newtonists”.)

“Any objectivity that the film pretends to have goes out the window when it decides to forgo usual labels like ’scientists’ and ‘theory of evolution’ in exchange for ‘Darwinists’ and ‘Darwinism’. Anyone with a fairly decent grasp of the many various areas of science from High school will be stumped by these bizarre labels. I now half expect us to start referring to Gravitational theory as “Newtonism” and people who believe in gravity as “Newtonists”. It’s dishonest and misleading, trying to make people forget that evolution is a science and think that its some sort of indoctrinated belief worshipping Darwin.”

This commentator must be blind or did not listen to what was said, but only caught the points contradicting his bias in favor of evolution. Tell me something, isn’t worship giving honor unto some one or something? If worship is giving honor, then most certainly the doctrine of evolution is being worshiped in the person of Darwin. I guess I am disgusting then, because I believe in creation and make no bones about it.

“This is what is so disgustting about the adherents to this theory, when they are forced to look at facts that show the falacies in the theory evolution, rather then take a good look at the proofs they turn to calling us names and belittleing.”

The reason that we see the fallacies is they are there! Maybe you can accept something without looking at mistakes, but I find it very hard to believe in something, when those who promote it fail to correct mistakes. We are all looking at the same facts, but we come up with a different interpretation of the facts. I believe I have taken a good look at the proofs, but I find it impossible to see those proofs as supporting a chemical to man type of evolution. They actually tell me something entirely different. I also find the majority of the evolutionary scientists to be intellectually bankrupt. As for calling Darwinists names and belittling I for one have not used a belittling name yet. Cringe at what? The picturing of Darwinists as being unable to accept criticism of their darlings? I noticed that in this film the testimony was that evolutionary science needs to be more open and ready to re-exam their evidence. If a D.A prosecuted a case with the flimsy evidence that comes from evolutionary science, their case would get thrown out of court. What might I ask is a “healthy understanding of science”?

“If you have a healthy understanding of science, this film will make you cringe and sometimes gasp in outrage. If you believe God created us all as we are today, this film will pander to you, though I’d naturally warn against taking anything in this film seriously.”

Sure I could go with that, I will not take anything seriously from this film, but first let’s stop taking anything serious that comes out of the minds of Evolutionary Darwinists. If that is not possible, then perhaps we are at an impasse. Darwinists do not have all the answers, but their fervor for atheism has tainted there objectiveness in science. How can I possibly trust them, when they are this biased? I would like to take just one little statement out of his comment that is totally inaccurate, “If you believe God created us all as we are today…” No where do I know of anyone that is a creationist that claims that God created us as we are today. Most certainly we are not now today as God created us 6,000 years ago. Much has happened since then and the genome has degraded immensely since then. For those who do not know what a genome is I give this definition: “An Organism’s genome is the sum total of all its genetic parts, including all its chromosomes, genes and nucleotides” (Sanford, 1)4. Linking Darwinian evolution to the holocaust is a mater of fact, but do facts really mater anymore? This commentator seems to think that Darwinianism is not linked to the holocaust, inspite of the evidence, not to the contrary.

“Perhaps the most shocking thing about this film is its blatant attempt to link evolution to the holocaust and the Nazis. Let’s set aside for a moment the fact that eugenics and the tactics the Nazis employed were more reminiscent of selective breeding, something humans have been doing with domesticated animals and plants for many, many centuries, long before proper understanding of the mechanisms behind selective breeding came to light in the 19th century when Wallace and Darwin introduced theories of evolution via natural selection.”

This statement that tries to distance Darwin from Eugenics won’t work, “In his book The Descent of Man, Darwin went further, and contended that there is a need for superior races (i.e. the white race) to replace the ‘inferior races’ (Sanford, 116)” This person should really do his homework and read what Darwin said. He should also catch up with what is now being said among Geneticists. The whole subject of eugenics is unfortunately on the minds of some researchers according to Sanford, but to attempt this kind of planning requires “a ruthless world wide authoritarian ‘power elite’ (Sanford, 117)” There are those out there who would like to cut off those parts of the genome, that are not producing the kinds of information that fit their axiom demands. We are getting less and less information, not more and more. The thought is that by cutting off some of the mutations that are bad, it will allow better mutations to flourish. Problem is that the end result is a down grading of the size of the population, but no improvement in the information for mankind. Hitler was trying to produce the super human German and to do that he had to eliminate anything that would corrupt it. Unchecked selective breeding has brought us to this point, if you start messing with it, then it will destroy itself. What I am saying is that the human race is in a downward spirial and it will never correct itself. It is the philosophy that accompanies the theory of Darwinian evolution that is the culpret, that philosophy says no to God. In order to be a scientific theory that is credible, it would need to have something to show from the past in the way of primary evidence to support it. The only information available is right here and now.

“This attempt to link evolution to the holocaust begs the question: WHAT on earth does this have to do with evolution as a valid scientific theory? If people misuse gravity to throw people off tall buildings with the intent to kill them, does this mean gravity itself should be rejected as science? It’s merely a cheap tactic to sour people to evolution, and to see this and know that some people will be completely taken in by such shallow, emotional manipulation really disappoints me.”

You see the problem with evolution as valid scientific theory is that all the evidence exists in present time. Gravity on the other hand can be demonstrated by experiment today. Cheap tactic, I call the firing of scientists who have forsaken Darwinism, just because the buck the program a cheap tactic. The most shallow thing that I have seen and heard of during my 61 years is the shallowness of the arguments from evolutionists. Expecting us to bow down and accept their findings just because they say so. If this movie had been designed (no pun intended), to make fun of creationist beliefs, this commentator would have no problem with it. Everything for this generation needs to be well polished and slick. Anything but fancy gets rejected by this generation.

“As for the style of documentary itself, it doesn’t make up for its incredibly poor content. It’s obviously taking after Michael Moore, but I find Moore’s work obnoxious and manipulative, and Expelled parroting his style is even more dismal.”

Let’s face it this question has now been before us for better then 200 years and given that time we still have die hard evolutionists espousing the same message. We have on the other side of this creationists, we are made to feel unwelcome and like fools by present day science. We are not allowed to say a single word in defence of creation. If a scientist with an earned degree in biology and the full spread of graduate degrees that goes with it comes out in favor of creationism, then that scholar looses everything, job and degrees included.

“I could do without every interview with a scientist being punctuated by stock footage of Nazis and the soviet union. As for Ben Stein – his monotonous drone is not good for a documentary, and obviously I didn’t find his sarcastic voice overs particularly funny since its hard to find such blatant ignorance dressed up as rebellion anything but sad.”

I would like to make just one comment here. Ignorance comes in many disguiesses these days, it just so happens that Darwinism is also a blatant ignorance. Why stoop to such a low characture of Ben Stein, it almost sounds to me like he is using that old rotten to the core attitude of antisemetism against Ben Stein. I will resist stooping to the same level of comment, although a few choice ones do come to mind.

“So, only a 3 from me. It’s a dishonest, manipulative film. Creationists will eat it up, the rest of us will bluster angrily at the nonsense and the lies, but invariably I don’t think this will change much. It’s preaching to the choir of miffed creationists who are reeling from repeated defeats in court over trying to inject religion into science classrooms.”

I give this movie a strong 9, but not because I do not agree with the conclusions, but that I do believe in creation and feel it deserves a better show in a theater, in a classroom and in our nations courts. A movie theater is nice, but it fails to stop the biggotry going on in the science community.

“I will be sad if it converts anyone who is on the fence, so there should definitely be a follow up film that shows the controversy accurately, to compensate for the deceit and propaganda that Expelled spread. It’s a shame though that creationists would likely boycott it.”

I will agree with the last statement, it probably would not convert anyone, but is not the point? Conversion, necessitates that the conservor is converted from a religion. Is not this an admission that Darwinanity is a religion? One held to such fervor that this commentator is convinced of its truth even though there is plenty of evidence against Darwinanity. The Lord Jesus Christ is the Creator and the day is coming soon when all will have to face Him. What about you are you ready for His return? I urge you to now come to Him and be converted. He is offering open arms to you?

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Sacramento, is this church?

This is really pathetic, that the church that the Reformation founded through John Knox has sunk to this kind of thing. However, since they really do not have anything anymore, then it is to be expected.

“Members of Sacramento’s Faith Presbyterian Church found religion Saturday in knitting and crocheting, baking and boiling, weeding and planting.

The Greenhaven/Pocket area church canceled its regular Sunday services this week and instead asked people to give up their weekend to help others.

Its theme, “Don’t go to church, be the church,” is part of a movement that’s spreading through churches across the country.

“It’s a chance to get our hands dirty and serve together,” said Faith’s pastor, the Rev. Jeff Chapman.

More than 300 volunteers are expected to help with 14 projects Saturday and today during what the church is calling Compassion Weekend.

Mainly church regulars but also students and neighbors, they’ll be doing everything from painting walls at senior living facilities to playing with kids living in public housing.

“I would love if one church did this every weekend,” said Carey Kincaid, a member of the church committee organizing the event.

The delectable smells of blueberry cakes, cheesy broccoli bakes and chicken patties filled the church Saturday as volunteers put together a week’s worth of meals for about three dozen people with health problems or other challenges.

“When there’s an illness, food preparation is the first thing to go,” said volunteer Miki Vohryzek-Bolden.

The church asked Vohryzek-Bolden, who labels herself a nondenominational traveling cook, to help with its Cooking for Friends program.

The retired criminal justice professor tries to encourage what she calls “cooking communities” – making food for those who need it.

In another room at the church, crocheters and knitters crafted patchwork blankets for the Children’s Receiving Home, an emergency shelter in Sacramento.

“If we’re giving to children, there’s nothing more comforting than a warm blanket,” said Amy Bundock, a senior at Kennedy High School and a church member who headed up the project.

Earlier this year, Bundock and her mother started knitting squares. Volunteers knitted more on Saturday, then crocheted 42 squares together to make each blanket. They hope to make at least a dozen.

Although he had never crocheted before, Greg Mar quickly learned Saturday.

The Kennedy High junior, who’s not a member of Faith church, was fulfilling part of his community service requirement with the National Honor Society.

“This way I can spend time with friends and help out the community,” he said.”

Worshipping the abomination

Evangelicals that have turned to a form of worship that adopts Catholic church worship forms have turned from the truth to lies. They have now started worshipping the abominal hoare of the book of revelation. The scriptures say exactly what they do, because anything less does not get God’s approval.

In Defense for the Faith

This site is set in defense of the faith once delivered unto the saints.

The Bizare world of Richard Abanes

“In one of Richards comments on this blog he states

“now you guys have just gone kooky. You are living on another planet, in another dimension of your own reality created from the most bizarre religious delusions I have ever witnessed up close and personal. Now, there is simply no reason to talk to you because, well, to be honest, you just can’t even understand plain old English anymore.”

I have to agree there are two very clear camps forming. One that adhears to the fundementals in Christianity by both word and deed.

And another camp that picks and chooses what parts of Christianity they choose to follow and scorn anyone in Christinanity who would refer to themselves as being fundemental.

This is a new form of Christianity that has taken evil form and at its roots is not Jesus Christ or His word…more“